2019 QUAD SERIES (Jan 13 – Liverpool)

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    EastWest
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    Looking back to Tippett at GS against NZ, unless she has done a lot of work on her GS game, I’d probably go with Wood as the second option at GS.

    This really highlights that Australia has 2 excellent GS options when they’re fully fit, but when they’re not there isn’t much coming through in that position.

    #1186507
    James
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    Seems odd that Austin was elevated, would have thought Philip would be included

    I personally would have called up Garbin but happy to see Austin get a shot

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    CharlesWB
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    Looking back to Tippett at GS against NZ, unless she has done a lot of work on her GS game, I’d probably go with Wood as the second option at GS.

    Didn’t they try Wood there last year briefly? And if I recall, it was very underwhelming. I’ll admit Gretel wasn’t a raging success either but at least she’s tall and is some sort of target. A while back LA mentioned in passing that Gretel’s future may well be GS, so it’s entirely possible that more work has been done in that regard.

    This really highlights that Australia has 2 excellent GS options when they’re fully fit, but when they’re not there isn’t much coming through in that position.

    This has been my beef about unlimited imports ion SSN in that there are only 2 Australian GS in the comp getting full game experience, and yep it’s the two Diamonds GS so there’s no obvious replacements coming up (unlike every other position on court).

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    EastWest
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    I agree that she could be a great GS one day, I was excited to see her there, but that was short lived. If you want her in there as a tall target she needs to learn to post up and be that target, not move away from the post on lead as she naturally does so well as a GA.

    I don’t recall seeing Wood playing at GS for Australia so not sure how it would work, but I guess it depends on who is in front of her. If Thwaites was to go off the court because of Australia needed something different, I think Wood could offer more stability and familiarity and definitely something different to the usual set up. Should they start that way? No. And could it be effective for a while game? Probably not.

    I guess this is a good chance to expose Austin to this environment and I often forget she’s of reasonable height at 185cm and offers a bit more flexibility than Garbin. And we don’t know if they had availabity issues last minute with Philip and Garbin – or anyone for that matter.

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    EastWest
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    Oh and yes agree with the impact of import GS! Have always thought it but it doesn’t really hit home until your number 1 GS isn’t available for a whole series.

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    Ian
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    #1186538
    Jbss
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    I’m not too concerned about Thwaites as GS in the 2017 constellation cup Thwaites had a full game against NZ(might have been a little less) but she held her own against Jury and Faka. Unfortunately in all series since CWG LA has gone back to only using her as an impact player so her 60 minute internationals were short lived. This does expose Australia’s problem with developing shooters though. Re: gretel at GS.. I’d prefer Steph there as Gretel provides such a strong target all the way down the court and has better defensive capabilities plus I think Wood keeps her head better than Tippet when in GS and doesn’t try to do too much. Plus she played the odd game in the ANZ and combined with Prats well to make an efficient moving circle.

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    CharlesWB
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    In truth I think we lose nothing by having Caitlin Thwaites as GS. She combines well with both the GA’s as well as being a strong solid GS herself.

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    GoSwifts
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    I think Thwaites will combine better with Tippett in any case.  Thwaites is more likely to pull in a stray ball that might turn you a bit inside out than Bassett who isn’t as nimble.  Bassett positions better for the more classic passes from the feeders but Thwaites has more mobility for the wayward holy Mary passes that are more likely to come out of Tippett’s hands than any of the other Diamonds recognised feeders.  Leaving those crap passes from Jo Weston out of this commentary because I don’t know which of our front line players are going to pick those up.  Hopefully, since last series she has had some training on treasuring the ball.

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    nanator
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    England has a very strong defence and Thwaites is seen to be rattled easily by Mentor… will be interesting to see how she performs in a 60min international match with a strong GA infront of her though

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    Ian
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    Jbss
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    England has a very strong defence and Thwaites is seen to be rattled easily by Mentor… will be interesting to see how she performs in a 60min international match with a strong GA infront of her though

    Thwaites hasn’t had much opportunity to play against Mentor, except when things are already going badly and she’s brought on for impact and let’s be real making an impact against Geva Mentor after she’s already played well against Basset is a big ask. It’s hard to gauge how her domestic performances will line up as she hasn’t had a solid GA and the pies midcourt could never get it together. I’m not worried about Thwaites and I think it gives us an opportunity to try combos that probably wouldn’t get tested with Basset there, like Thwaites and Wood.

    Really interested to see how much time Kate Moloney gets. It feels like JLP will be used when Gabi needs a rest over moving Moloney back to WD aka she seems to be in the squad as purely a C option so whether maybe LA opts more for Watson at C and Browne at WA will be interesting. Moloney could very well be holding Ravaillions spot given the history of her selections. It seems to me that while Price plays to an international level unless she replaces Simpson outright then there isn’t much room for her in the twelve, yes she plays C but it would be nice to take one player who specialises there(good as Liz Watson has been). Without Guthrie at giants I’d say Fitzgerald will give both her and Parmenter time in C so after half a season there she might be able to play C at WC? All that said I hope Moloney gets plenty of court time with both Browne and Watson as she could very well be the C going to WC. The problem is that without Basset how many risks will LA be willing to take? For example will Mannix get any time this series? I can’t see her getting more than a couple quarters and the scoreline would have to be comfortable.

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    Ian
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    #1186570
    DexiNBL
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    Disappointed for Caitlin and it’s sad the Aussies won’t be at full strength. But it makes it very interesting; I don’t agree Thwaites slots in without any issues, think Mentor might give her a bath. No Basset means Aussie midvourtrrs can’t just lob it on top of their goal shooter when they’re out of ideas.

    England’s series to lose. Wonder how they’ll handle the pressure

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    Ian
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